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Why is Databricks on AWS cluster start time less than 5 mins and EMR cluster start time is 15 mins?

gud4eve
New Contributor III

We are migrating from AWS EMR to Databricks. One thing that we have noticed during the POCs is that Databricks cluster of same size and instance type takes much lesser time to start compared to EMR.

My understanding is Databricks also would be requesting instances from same AWS pool as EMR would do. Then why AWS's own service (EMR) is slow in getting the clusters up?

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Hubert-Dudek
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I hear about trying to improve starting time at conferences for two years, so it is something like a never-ending story. Pools and serverless pools will offer further improvements. Recommended instance types are also usually better, as databricks is working with vendors on that. Additionally, I heard that GCC is now the fastest to start vms/cluster. For me, big improvements with deployment time would be that pools would have preinstalled libraries (instead of setting them on cluster level).

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-werners-
Esteemed Contributor III

Suppose the worker provisioning is identical between EMR and Databricks (I think they are the same, but am not certain), it is very possible that installing EMR on a cluster takes more time than installing Databricks. Databricks has worked hard to get their nodes up and running as fast as possible, perhaps Amazon did not do such a thing.

gud4eve
New Contributor III

yes that's my assumption too. But do we have any documentation by Databricks stating that?

Hubert-Dudek
Esteemed Contributor III

I hear about trying to improve starting time at conferences for two years, so it is something like a never-ending story. Pools and serverless pools will offer further improvements. Recommended instance types are also usually better, as databricks is working with vendors on that. Additionally, I heard that GCC is now the fastest to start vms/cluster. For me, big improvements with deployment time would be that pools would have preinstalled libraries (instead of setting them on cluster level).

karthik_p
Esteemed Contributor

@gud4eveโ€‹ what kind of cluster you are using, have you configured pools. if not as @Werner Stinckensโ€‹ said there might be chance Databricks worked hard to get provisioning of instances in faster way

gud4eve
New Contributor III

No we haven't configured pools

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