yesterday
Iām noticing some unusual inconsistencies in how scripts execute on databricks.com compared to when the same workflow is triggered through a mobile-based API. On Databricks, the script runs perfectly when executed directly inside a cluster notebook. But when triggered through an API call, the execution timing and even some output behaviors change slightly ā which ends up affecting downstream tasks. To check whether this is a Databricks-specific behavior or a broader runtime/environment issue, I started comparing execution across other platforms as well. I even tested how lightweight mobile script executors handle similar runtime variations (for example, tools like Delta Executor APK ). Surprisingly, the pattern of environment-dependent execution differences appears in multiple platforms. So my question to the community is: What typically causes scripts to behave differently between direct cluster execution on databricks.com and API-triggered runs? Could it be: Environment variables? Session initialization? Cluster warm-up? API gateway timeout differences? Or something else affecting runtime consistency? Any insights will help a lot ā trying to determine if this is a Databricks-side factor or a universal runtime behavior issue.
yesterday
Hi Ellie,
What youāre seeing is actually quite common , the same script can behave slightly differently when:
Itās usually not āDatabricks being randomā, but a mix of different environments and lifecycle. A few typical causes:
In many setups:
Notebook runs ā on an all-purpose (interactive) cluster
API / job runs ā on a job cluster or a different pool
Those clusters can differ in:
Even small config differences can change timing and sometimes behaviour (e.g. shuffles, joins, broadcast vs shuffle strategy, timeouts, etc.).
Check: compare the cluster JSON or Spark UI ā Environment for both runs.
Notebook sessions are stateful:
When you trigger via API, the job run usually starts with a clean, fresh context:
That alone can easily explain different timings and sometimes corner-case behaviour if the script accidentally relies on prior state.
API-triggered runs often use:
A service principal or technical user
Potentially different default catalog / schema workspace, or permissions
Different secret scopes / environment variables(set in job config vs cluster)
If your script reads from:
ā¦those differences can influence output or error paths.
Job clusters or on-demand clusters go through:
The first run (especially via API) can be noticeably slower than:
If youāre measuring timing precisely, cold vs warm states will show up.
When you go through: a mobile app ā API gateway ā Databricks Jobs API
you also introduce:
This doesnāt usually change results, but it does change timings, and if downstream systems have strict time budgets or expect logs in a specific order, you may notice differences.
How Iād debug / stabilise this
For very time-sensitive workflows, consider a small āwarm-upā call before the real workload (or keep a cluster/pool warm).
Is this Databricks-specific or universal?
What you observed with other platforms and mobile script executors is spot on:
this is largely a universal āenvironment + lifecycleā behaviour, not unique to Databricks.
Databricks just makes the differences more visible because:
If you can share a minimal example (e.g. same script, cluster configs, and rough timing logs), the community can help narrow down exactly which of the above is biting you most.
Hope this helps clarify what to look at!
yesterday - last edited yesterday
Thanks for the detailed breakdown ā this actually helps a lot.
Your point about stateful vs stateless execution makes complete sense. I also realized that part of my confusion came from comparing runtimes across very different environments.
While investigating āenvironment-dependent execution differences,ā I was testing a few non-Databricks platforms as reference points too ā including a lightweight mobile script executor (deltaexecutorkey.com) ā and interestingly, the same cold/warm start and context differences show up there as well.
Not related to Databricks directly, of course, but it helped me understand that the behavior Iām seeing isnāt unique to Spark or DBR ā itās more about how each runtime initializes and manages state.
Iāll gather the environment configs (DBR version, spark.conf, env vars) from both sides and share a minimal reproducible example soon. Thanks again for the clarity.
yesterday
Hi Ellie,
What youāre seeing is actually quite common , the same script can behave slightly differently when:
Itās usually not āDatabricks being randomā, but a mix of different environments and lifecycle. A few typical causes:
In many setups:
Notebook runs ā on an all-purpose (interactive) cluster
API / job runs ā on a job cluster or a different pool
Those clusters can differ in:
Even small config differences can change timing and sometimes behaviour (e.g. shuffles, joins, broadcast vs shuffle strategy, timeouts, etc.).
Check: compare the cluster JSON or Spark UI ā Environment for both runs.
Notebook sessions are stateful:
When you trigger via API, the job run usually starts with a clean, fresh context:
That alone can easily explain different timings and sometimes corner-case behaviour if the script accidentally relies on prior state.
API-triggered runs often use:
A service principal or technical user
Potentially different default catalog / schema workspace, or permissions
Different secret scopes / environment variables(set in job config vs cluster)
If your script reads from:
ā¦those differences can influence output or error paths.
Job clusters or on-demand clusters go through:
The first run (especially via API) can be noticeably slower than:
If youāre measuring timing precisely, cold vs warm states will show up.
When you go through: a mobile app ā API gateway ā Databricks Jobs API
you also introduce:
This doesnāt usually change results, but it does change timings, and if downstream systems have strict time budgets or expect logs in a specific order, you may notice differences.
How Iād debug / stabilise this
For very time-sensitive workflows, consider a small āwarm-upā call before the real workload (or keep a cluster/pool warm).
Is this Databricks-specific or universal?
What you observed with other platforms and mobile script executors is spot on:
this is largely a universal āenvironment + lifecycleā behaviour, not unique to Databricks.
Databricks just makes the differences more visible because:
If you can share a minimal example (e.g. same script, cluster configs, and rough timing logs), the community can help narrow down exactly which of the above is biting you most.
Hope this helps clarify what to look at!
yesterday - last edited yesterday
Thanks for the detailed breakdown ā this actually helps a lot.
Your point about stateful vs stateless execution makes complete sense. I also realized that part of my confusion came from comparing runtimes across very different environments.
While investigating āenvironment-dependent execution differences,ā I was testing a few non-Databricks platforms as reference points too ā including a lightweight mobile script executor (deltaexecutorkey.com) ā and interestingly, the same cold/warm start and context differences show up there as well.
Not related to Databricks directly, of course, but it helped me understand that the behavior Iām seeing isnāt unique to Spark or DBR ā itās more about how each runtime initializes and manages state.
Iāll gather the environment configs (DBR version, spark.conf, env vars) from both sides and share a minimal reproducible example soon. Thanks again for the clarity.
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